A couple of months ago the Netaudio festival threw open its doors for musicians around the world to apply to play at their event in May. In what seemed like a very encouragingly open way, they claimed that the selection of the acts playing on the Open Platform stage would be done via a vote on Soundcloud. Bands were encouraged to upload their music, and to drive traffic to the Netaudio site to vote on who should play.


The voting closed at the end of March, and an announcement was made that the successful artists would be notified at the beginning of April. The weeks passed, and there was no announcement...I wasn't too worried though, Thee Moths had come second, and were the top UK act by a significant amount of votes.


Then the announcement was made.....and NONE of the top five acts were playing! In fact, when the list was examined only two of the artists that had submitted work were playing at all, the rest of the bill being taken up by artists chosen by the festival organisers! Something else had happened as well....the Open Platform page had been altered from saying the acts would be chosen by the vote, to stating that the acts would be 'partially' chosen by the vote!


Understandably several musicians were unhappy about this, and questioned Netaudio via their Facebook page and email. The organisers completely ignored my email asking them what was going on, and then made out that I'd posted a reply to them that was too abusive to not be deleted - that post? Merely asking why a joke act called Cuntbucket had got through when other, far better acts, hadn't. I guess using Cuntbucket's full name was enough for them to decide I'd posted 'abuse'.


Anyway, they posted a halfarsed 'explanation' and then that was the matter closed...until yesterday.

Those emails in full

Yesterday I got an email from them, breathlessly trumping their event, and again announcing the acts to play the Open Platform event. Needless to say I was a little annoyed to be spammed by them, so I wrote the following -

"You send me this after fucking over the artists that were in the

vote?? And after IGNORING the email I sent you about it??



You guys have no shame. Do not email me again, you frauds."

Today I got this reply

"The issue was already discussed on facebook.

The mailshot has an unsubscribe link. Use it.


Your email address is now filtered/deleted now in my inbox so don't bother emailing again - I wont see it."

The FUCKING CHEEK! Acting as if I'M in the wrong for thinking their behaviour has been shitty in the extreme? And then telling ME not to email again after I've complained to them about their spamming?? What a shower of cunts!


The guys running Netaudio London 11 are frauds and self appointed gatekeepers, as well as being dishonest and unrepentant about that dishonesty. I'm disgusted that people like this have so much control over the way the experimental underground in the UK is run.

I'm going to be performing at the Hare & Hounds in Birmingham on Tuesday night, as part of 8bit Lounge.

Come along!

8th of February, it's free

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Interview With Alex Botten-Clark from Thee Moths

 From here - 

http://strawberryanarchy.blogspot.com/2010/06/interview-with-alex-botten-clark-from.html

 

Wednesday, 23 June 2010

Interview With Alex Botten-Clark from Thee Moths

I have known Alex for years since back when I was 14 and got into my first band with him. He's always done music and now you can hear his latest album "Data Magic Analogue Wonder" Things have changed a lot since the days of thrashing acoustic guitars of Magnetic North Pole (the band we were in together)

This album has some very relaxing parts that take you on a little journey, I like listening to it while I'm making things since it is mostly instrumental apart from track 9 which sounds like a non intrusive monk chant, it doesn't distract me with words and instead puts me in a zone of concentration and relaxation and I like all the strange electronic noises and ambient sounds, It could be played while walking around a magical garden like in Alice in Wonderland because it sounds so organic. You should give it a listen. I also asked Alex some questions....

You can listen to the whole record here completely free - which is also where people can buy it for a total bargain of £2 (or, if you want the physical version) you can buy it from here



"Alex, was just going to ask you about your inspiration for this album and also could you explain how your music has developed over the years since now it is more electronic? "
The change was very gradual. I'd always done solo things over the years using the drum machines on cheap keyboards, but it was playing a weekend's worth of shows with LA's Lucky Dragons that really changed the way I thought about making music. Out went the guitar and songs, in came a Powerbook (later replaced with a MacBook). I like how portable and versatile laptops can be. These days the two I use live are pretty much just doing some light effects processing, but the options for more are always there. Even with a huge case of equipment I'm still hauling less around than I did when I was playing in guitar bands.

"Who is Will and Dani who you mention the album is dedicated to? "

Dani and Will are a band called Celer. They are married. Dani died suddenly last year. She is a friend that I miss. The the first two tracks on the album are named for Dani and Will.

"I would also like to know your thoughts on free music and why you have personally decided to let people listen for free."

I produce a LOT of music these days, often going only a couple of weeks between releases. Most of it now gets released as part of the ongoing SuperLimited project -where I put out records in tiny runs (anything from 1 to 20 copies) - but some are put up for free on the web. I'd rather 3000 people download something for free than 5 people buy a CD leaving me with boxes of unsold product under my bed. Many small indies would only do a run of 500 CDs and they would often not sell out. I'd get paid with a percentage of the pressing that I'd often just give away. Nowadays I can put something out, have it cost nothing to manufacture, and have many thousands of people hear it. I make no more money than I did, but I make no less.

The Super Limited stuff is totally different - once it's sold out that's it, I don't put the music up for sale online as mp3s....I guess I see the whole thing as an art project

"and one last thing, if people buy a hard copy "Limited to 50 copies in hand numbered and stickered arigato paks." what does "arigato" packs mean?"

Click here to see an Arigato Pak - they're card sleeves designed and manufactured by Stumptown Printers in Portland, Oregon. They are easily printed on, and far nicer than plastic cases.

Alex has many talents you should visit his personal website to check out his amazing art which should really have a whole new post all of it's own that I will do at some point, gig posters and listen to the many bands and music he has made including Magnetic North Pole.

Surround Sound Cymbals

Double 3" CDR

5 copies

Coming very soon

New 3" cd coming soon

Next up, new lathe cut flexi 7", limited to a ridiculous 10 copies, in hand painted sleeves and accompanied by a 3" CDr in a linocut printed insert. This one can be played at 45 or 33 depending how you feel!

Probably going to be about £8

....and a whole new EP as well! - http://www.archive.org/details/CampanasParaLosAmigosYMsicosem103

New release - http://www.archive.org/details/mpr015

Coming soon -

http://theemoths.bandcamp.com/album/data-magic-analogue-wonder

Buy as a hi-bitrate Wav/mp3/whateveryoulike

Norman Records say nice things

http://www.normanrecords.com/records/115213

This record left our Ant feeling happy.

This kicks off with a load of bells twinkling about and then it gets fun with some cool rhythmic shit happening and weird melodies all with a playful and charming quality. Lots of stuttering drum machines and analogue sounds. It's certainly out there on its own. I know nothing at all about these guys other than they whip up some sweet and strange electronics complete with drones and rich textures. Ltd edition of 50 hand numbered copies.

 Have a free AWESOME mix

Powdered Wigs - Intro
Pop-Off Tuesday - Un-Worldly
Judee Sill - Jesus was a Cross Maker
Bobby Birdman - Victory at Sea (E*Rock mix)
Sweet Potatoes - First Song
Midlake - Roscoe
To Tired - An Old Video of an Old Hector
Final Fantasy - This is the Dream of Emma and Cam
Endless Endless Endless - Oscillate
McGazz - Mourning Sickness
Arthur Russell - That's Us/Wild Combination
Swirlies - Swan
Kites - Peace Trials
Billy Connelly - The Bridge Over the River Tay part 1
Fennesz - Transit
Aphex Twin - Girl/Boy Song
Billy Connelly - The Bridge Over the River Tay part 2
Revolver - Get Around Town
Simon and Garfunkel - A Poem on the Underground Wall (demo)
Thee Moths - In The Dawn They Call the Rising Sun (Version)
Stephen Merritt - Shall We Sing a Duet?
Mystery Artist - Mystery Track
Lucky Dragons - Triforce Theme
Billy Connelly - The Bridge Over the River Tay part 3
Disastronaut - Untitled
Eric's Trip - Untitled early demo
Eric Vallely - Lo-fi Birthday Edit
Javelin - Oh Centra
Glen Campbell - Wichita Lineman
Adam Buxton - Ratatouille
Javelin - STD Fury
The Handsome Family - If The World Should End in Flames

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In Memorium Underground Scene

So, Farewell then UGS
A site on the
Web

You were around
For almost 10
Years but
Not quite

'You do not have permission to view this forum'
Yes, that was your catchphrase

Now no-one will be able to view you

E.J. Thribb (17 1/2 posts)

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